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              rec.food.veg  World Guide to Vegetarianism
                                Other2
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The 14 parts of this guide contain a world list of vegetarian
restaurants, vegetarian-friendly restaurants, natural food stores,
vegetarian organizations, etc. Each part is posted on an independent
schedule.

The latest posted copy of the World Guide to Vegetarianism is
available via e-mail. For an index and instructions, send an e-mail to
[e-mail] with the following line in the message body:
  send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/index
The guide is also available via anonymous ftp from rtfm.mit.edu in the
directory /pub/usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide.

** Please send us any new listings or corrections, but be sure to **
** format them in the same format as is used in this guide. Keep  **
** comments and reviews short, simple, and straight to the point. **


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  Other part 2
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  This section has listings for the following:

    Airlines                          Cruise Ship Lines
    Rail Lines                        Internet Services


  The Other2 coordinator is:  Mark Wisdom  <[e-mail]>


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  Airlines
  ______________________________________________________________________


  General Notes:

  - Vegetarian meals in Business Class are far better than the ones in
    Coach.
  - Most of the larger airlines also offer fruit plates. If you are
    doing several hops on one airline and order vegetarian on all of
    them, it is possible to get the same meal several times in one day.


  Air India
  - As in India, it is easy to get vegetarian food, but almost
    impossible to get vegan food. They normally carry extra vegetarian
    food.

  Air Vanuatu
  - Seemed puzzled by the vegetarian meal request.

  ALM (Dutch Antilles)
  - Did well on the US-to-Netherland Antilles direction, but lost the
    meal on the Netherland-to-US leg.

  American Airlines
  - Really good about vegetarian meals.
  - Provide Vegan, Hindu Vegetarian, & Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian meals.
  - While the veg dinners were comparable in quality to the non-veg, I
    thought the breakfast was vastly superior: veg meal was fresh
    strawberries & pineapple, and a raisin bagel.
  - I thought that the vegetarian food tasted as good as airline food
    gets. It was a tomato-veg.-raisin-rice dish that was served with a
    salad and some bread.
  - Every veggie meal comes with a packet of honey, and a cup of nuts
    and raisins.

  British Airways
  - Good.

  Cayman Air (Carribean)
  - Generally such a short flight that they only serve a rum punch. Good
    rum punch.

  Continental (US)
  - Continental airlines announced in the May 15, 1993 issue of
    FoodService Director that they have revamped their vegetarian menu.
    They now offer herbal tea and Edensoy beverages.
    Breakfast trays include: cranberry and nut filled tortillas, a
    vegetarian sausage pattie, and a pear and peach compote; Kashi (a
    hot grain cereal), nuts and raisins, scalloped potatoes, and a
    vegetarian raisin muffin; a raisin and nut filled tortilla; or a
    potato and scallion filled tortilla with a southwestern sauce,
    brown rice, and peanuts.
    Lunches/dinners include: a vegetarian meatless pattie (soy based)
    with Oriental glaze soy sauce and curried couscous medley; a
    grilled vegetarian pattie with tofu-stuffed shell, marinara sauce,
    and Italian green-bean medley; a stuffed baked potato shell with
    chili nut filling, tofu stuffed shells and provencale sauce; or a
    stuffed green pepper with chili beans, nuts, and chili sauce.
  - "The vegetarian meal (I think it was vegan, except for the salad
    dressing and margarine, maybe..) was excellent. Just top notch. It
    was a zippy vegetable dish, in a nice sause, just a little spicy.
    By far the best vegetarian meal I've ever had on a plane, and I fly
    quite a bit domestically in the cheap seats. Their new meals are
    quite good.
  - A result of their old vegetarian menu:
    "Vegan food is _wretched_. On most flights they serve just
    unseasoned cooked vegetables. They give you a miniscule pack of
    ground pepper and a miniscule pack of salt. They once served me a
    half-raw potato."

  Delta (US)
  - Vegetarian food is vegan by default. If you want ovo or lacto, you
    must specify it. The vegetarian food is consistently much better
    (more varied/interesting/quantity) than their regular offerings.

  Finnair
  - Provides reasonable vegetarian meals these days. Vegan meals can be
    requested as "vegetarian food which does not include eggs or milk
    products". This will be noted as SPML instead of the lacto-ovo
    VGML. They did very well on my last few flights.

  KLM
  - Good.

  Lufthansa
  - Suprised me by preparing a better vegetarian meal than I had
    anywhere in Germany (of course in Germany I mostly ate Italian
    food).
  - "with some airlines, their vegetarian meal seems to be their regular
    meal without the meat. But at Lufthanso, our chefs put as much care
    into our vegetarian offerings as they do our regular menu. Which
    means everything they use is of the highest quality, and is fresh,
    not frozen." Advertisement in May 17, 1993 issue of Fortune
    magazine.

  Midwest Express (US)
  - Has very good vegan meals, but they really flaunt their leather
    seats.

| Monarch Airlines (UK)
| - Vegetarian and vegan options available. Vegan is reasonable but dry.
|   They forget easily, so a reminder for each journey is prudent.

  Northwest (US)
  - Very incompetent. After ordering a vegetarian meal 2 weeks in
    advance, and then confirming it 24 before the flight, you are
    still likely to get a carniverous meal. The flight attendants have
    attitude problems too.

  Quantas (Australian)
  - Great. Good service too.

  SAS (Scandinavian)
  - They don't care. They have a policy of not providing vegetarian
    meals on local (Scandinavian) and short (whatever that means, I
    guess it means European) flights. Elsewhere they offer in principle
    4 possibilities - VLML, VGML, AVML, RVML (lacto, lacto-ovo, Asian,
    and raw).

  Singapore Airlines
  - Provide Vegan, Vegetarian, Indian Vegetarian, Chinese Vegetarian,
    Macrobiotic, and Low Fat Vegetarian meals. The food is excellent
    and simple. My best experience with airline food.

  Solomon Air
  - Seemed puzzled by the vegetarian meal request.

  Tan Sahsa (Honduras)
  - Didn't know what a veggie meal was (1991).

  U.S. Air
  - Only have one vegetarian option, but the diary is packaged
    separately. Food is edible, but not wonderful. Egg noodles sometimes
    served. Salad dressing seems to be always dairy based.

  United (US)
  - Claims to have many vegetarian options. Offers at least lacto-ovo
    and vegan meals. If you forget to order your vegetarian meal in
 nice fruit plate in
    flight.
  - Does a good job with veggie meals; they serve curried grain patties,
    rice-stuffed peppers, etc. Be careful when ordering Hindu meals; if
    you don't specify Hindu Vegetarian, you get chicken.



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  Cruise Ship Lines
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  Thanks to the Vegetarian Resource Group for much of the following
  information.


  Carnival
  - Special dietary requests must be made at least two weeks prior to
    departure. Travelers are also advised to talk to their waiter about
    special instructions for preparing menu items. Lowfat menu items are
    flagged on each menu. Two vegetarian options are noted on their
    dinner menus but not for breakfast or lunch. The vegetarian dinner
    menu includes pear nectar, cream of asparagus soup, sliced cucumber
    and Belgium endive in lemon dressing, vegetable brochette on pilaf
    rice, vegetable accompaniments, assorted cheese.

  Celebrity/Fantasy
  - There is a vegetarian menu which changes daily. Sample entrees
    include vegetable strudel, vegetables tempura, vegetarian casserole
    in puff pastry with cheese sauce, and pasta with vegetables. For
    further information call [phone].

  Cunard
  - No special menus are offered to vegetarians, but the cruise line
    can accommodate almost any special dietary request with at least
    thirty days notice prior to departure. For further information call
    [phone].

  Princess
  - There is no separate vegetarian menu, however vegetarian options for
    lunch include spring vegetables vinaigrette, chilled zucchini
    bisque, three bean salad, noodles with tomato sauce and basil,
    banana bread. Sample vegetarian items available during dinner
    include broiled grapefruit with rum and raisins, chilled banana and
    papaya soup, mushroom and barley soup, mixed green salad with
    dressing, vegetable pojarksy (breaded, mixed vegetable patty) with
    cheese sauce, spinach flan with cream sauce, assorted vegetables.
    For further information call [phone].

  Royal Caribbean
  - Vegetarian lunch and dinner menus are being introduced aboard their
    nine-ship fleet. The Monarch of the Seas has separate vegetarian
    menus. Several items are flagged as lowfat on each menu. Vegetarian
    options are usually ovo-lacto, but can be modified to be vegan.
    Sample vegetarian items on their meatless lunch menu include melon
    cocktail, chilled strawberry bisque, fresh vegetables, vegetable
    soup, cauliflower garden salad, tropical fruit platter, sherbet,
    tortellini calabrese, Hawaiian croissant sandwiches. Sample
    vegetarian dishes on their meatless dinner menus include spaghetti
    Alfredo style with julienne of fresh vegetables, grilled plum
    tomatoes, steamed broccoli, chilled cantaloupe soup, tempura fried
    broccoli and eggplant garnished with snow peas, and Oriental noodles
    served with a sweet and sour sauce. For further information call
    [phone].



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  Rail Lines
  ______________________________________________________________________


  Amtrak (US)
  - Amtrak always has Nile Spice vegetarian soup mixes (many are vegan),
    carrot sticks, cheese pizza, and granola bars. On long distance
    trips they also offer dry cereal & bagels for breakfast; a fettucine
    dish with tomato and basil, light alfredo, or primavera sauce for
    lunch; and a vegetarian (never vegan) entree at dinner.

| British Rail
| - Make sandwiches. Book seats far from the *very* smelly burgers in
|   the restaurant carriage.



  ______________________________________________________________________

  Internet Services
  ______________________________________________________________________


  Many thanks to Bobbi Pasternak, who's compiling a list of online
  resources for the Vegetarian Resource Group, and to Geraint 'Gedge'
  Edwards, our European listings coordinator, for posting much of the
  below information on rec.food.veg. If you know of any other Internet
  vegetarian resources, please send them to Bobbi Pasternak
  <[e-mail]> and to myself.



  USENET Newsgroups
  -----------------

  rec.food.veg
  - Posting/discussion of all vegetarian related subjects.

  rec.food.veg.cooking
  - A moderated newsgroup for the posting/discussion of vegetarian
    recipes, cooking information, nutrition, and other non-ethical
    information.

  talk.politics.animals
  - Posting/discussion of animal rights related subjects.



  Mailing Lists
  -------------

  Many mailing lists are available in two formats: regular and digest.
  In the regular format, you get an e-mail for every message posted.
  This is typically between 5 and 50 e-mails per day. In digest format,
  you get one e-mail per day containing all the postings for the
  previous 24 hours.


  Vegan-L
  - A mailing list for vegans and aspiring vegans. To subscribe, send
    an e-mail to [e-mail] with the following in your
    message body:
      sub vegan-l <your first and last name here>
    For the digest option, also add the following line:
      set vegan-l digest

  VegLife
  - Used to be called Granola. To subscribe, send an e-mail to
    [e-mail] with the following in your message body:
      sub veglife <your first and last name here>
    For the digest option, also add the following line:
      set veglife digest

  Veggie
  - For the discussion of any aspect of vegetarianism, vegetarian
    lifestyle, or anything relevant to vegetarians. To subscribe, send
    an e-mail to: [e-mail] with the following in
    your message body:
      sub veggie <your first & last name here>
    For the digest option, also add the following line:
      set veggie digest

  Veggies
  - For British vegetarian events/matters. Remarkably quiet. To
    subscribe, send an e-mail to: [e-mail] with the
    following in your message body:
      sub veggies <your first & last name here>
    Availability of digest option is unknown to me.

  FatFree
  - Intended for anyone following an extremely lowfat vegetarian diet,
    including followers of McDougall and Ornish. Only vegetarian recipes
    are permitted. The focus here is on the health and nutrition aspects
    of such diets, not ethical and ecological concerns. To subscribe,
    send an e-mail to [e-mail] with one of the
    following two subject lines:
      ADD
      ADD DIGEST

| BA-FatFree
| Chicago Area FatFree
| - There are also local off-shoots of the FatFree mailing list for the
|   San Francisco Bay Area and for the Chicago area. These discuss local
|   issues and arrange get-togethers and potlucks. To subscribe to
|   BA-FatFree, send an e-mail to [e-mail]
|   with "subscribe" in the message body. To subscribe to the Chicago
|   area list, write [e-mail] or
|   [e-mail] for more details.

  MaxLife
  - A list for those working toward a positive, healthy life style while
    at the same time choosing to avoid heavy consumerism. It is for
    people who choose their activities with careful consideration to the
    pleasure they bring as well as all their costs. To subscribe, send
    an e-mail to: [e-mail] with the following in your
    message body:
      sub maxlife <your first & last name here>
    For the digest option, also add the following line:
      set maxlife digest

| Macrobiotic
| - A list on macrobiotics. To subscribe, send an e-mail to
|   [e-mail] with the following in your message body:
|     sub macrobiotic <your first and last name here>
|   Availability of digest option is unknown to me.

  AR-Talk
  - A mailing list for the discussion of animal rights. Part of the
    Animal Rights Electronic Network (AREN). To subscribe, send an
    e-mail to [e-mail] with the following in your
    message body:
d last name here>
    Availability of digest option is unknown to me.

  AR-News
  - Related to AR-Talk. To subscribe, send an e-mail to (?)
    [e-mail] with the following in your message body:
      sub ar-news <your first and last name here>
    Availability of digest option is unknown to me.



  World Wide Web (WWW)
  --------------------

| http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Vegetarian
| - The proposed main index to vegetarian resources on the Internet.
|   Intended to be the home for hypertext documents relating to
|   vegetarianism. Home to the hypertext version of the rec.food.veg
|   World Guide to Vegetarianism. Links to many other Internet archives
|   (www/gopher/ftp sites). Still in the preliminary development stage.
|   Maintained by Geraint 'Gedge' Edwards <[e-mail]>.

  http://english-server.hss.cmu.edu/Recipes
  - Although not entirely vegetarian, much of it is vegetarian recipes.
    There are links to the Fat-Free archives and a few others. This
    server can also be reached via gopher (and ftp, but then the links
    aren't available). The moderator, Terri Palmer
    <[e-mail]>, is also planning a directory of vegetarian
    texts and would appreciate any sources.

| http://sunsite.unc.edu
| - Newsgroup & text archives. See listing under Anonymous FTP Sites,
|   below.



  Anonymous FTP Sites
  -------------------

  When FTPing to an anonymous FTP site, use the userid 'anonymous' and
  then enter your e-mail address for the password,

  VegLife: cadadmin.cadlab.vt.edu (128.173.53.239)
  - Several thousand vegetarian/vegan/fatfree recipes.
  - Userid 'vegan' and password 'guest' also work.

  flubber.cs.umd.edu:/other/tms/veg
  - Several dozen vegetarian related articles, including the ADA's
    position paper on the vegetarian diet, statements by the
    Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine, and an array of
    files related to Jeremy Rifkin's book, "Beyond Beef".
  - Will soon no longer be available.

| Vegetarian Resource Group Archives, 2 sites:
|   ftp.geod.emr.ca:/pub/Vegetarian/Articles
|   ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de:/pub/doc/vegetarian
| - VRG articles, newsletters, and pamphlets in electronic form.

  FatFree Recipe Archive, 2 sites:
    geod.emr.ca:/pub/Recipes/FatFree
    ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/recipes
  - Large and growing archive of very lowfat and fatfree vegetarian
    recipes. Recipes range from simple to complex, easy to gourmet,
    mild to hot. There are recipes from cultures all around the world:
    Caribbean, Eastern European, South American, mainstream American
    and so on. Indian cuisine is particularly well-represented in the
    collection. All the recipes are strictly vegetarian and contain no
    added fat and very little high-fat ingredients. Yet, the variety
    is astounding.

  bitnic.educom.edu
  - Recipes. The recipes are in the nicbbs.391 subdirectory, have a
    filename VEG_RECI and a filetype of either DIGEST, INDEX, or
    VOLxxxxx.

  mthvax.cs.miami.edu:/recipes/vegan
  - Perhaps a mirror of the VegLife site but with some differences.

| sunsite.unc.edu
| - Archives rec.food.veg, rec.food.veg.cooking, and a few other
|   newgroups and text files that may be of interest to vegetarians.
|   Look under the /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/
|   discussion-groups/newsgroups/ directory. Also accessible via Gopher,
|   WWW, WAIS, telnet, and ftpmail. The person maintaining these
|   archives is Larry London <[e-mail]>

  news.answers archive: rtfm.mit.edu
  - The latest officially posted copy of the World Guide to
    Vegetarianism is available in the directory
    /pub/usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide.
  - The latest officially posted copy of the rec.food.veg FAQ is
    available in the file /pub/usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/faq.

  info.umd.edu:/info/Government/US/NutrientData/Data/SR10
  - The *.dat files located here contain extremely detailed nutritional
    data in a comma-delimited form ready for loading into databases etc.
    The INDEX file and ah8-man.dat file tell you what's contained in the
    files. Long tables of the protein, iron, vitamins, cholesterol, etc.
    are listed. There is a shortened table, sr10abbr.dat, which contains
    all the foods but with fewer of the nutrient data columns.



  Gopher
  ------

  yaleinfo.yale.edu
  - Has access to all the USENET FAQs, including the World Guide to
    Vegetarianism and the rec.food.veg FAQ.

| gopher.micro.umn.edu
| - Look under fun & games/recipes/usenet for 4 subdirectories (lacto,
|   ovo, ovo-lacto, and vegan) with recipes. When looking at a recipe,
|   you can press 's' to save it to a local file or 'm' to have it
|   mailed to you.

  usda.mannlib.cornell.edu, port 70
  - USDA gopher site containing Lotus 123 spreadsheet format data
    regarding various kinds of farm production, food consumption, etc.
    A good place to verify some of the statistics used in arguments for
    vegetarianism.

  english-server.hss.cmu.edu
  - Recipes. See listing under World Wide Web, above.

| sunsite.unc.edu
| - Newsgroup & text archives. See listing under Anonymous FTP Sites,
|   above. You can also telnet here using userid 'gopher' if you do not
|   have access to gopher otherwise. Look under 'The Worlds of sunSITE',
|   'browse sunSITE archives', 'medicine', 'alternative healthcare',
|   'discussion-groups', 'newsgroups'.



  Information by E-Mail
  ---------------------

  The World Guide to Vegetarianism
  - For the latest officially posted copy of this guide, send an e-mail
    to [e-mail] with any combination of the following
    lines in your message body:
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/usa1
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/usa2
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/usa3
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/usa4
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/usa5
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/california1
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/california2
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/california3
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/canada1
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/canada2
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/europe1
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/europe2
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/other1
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/other2

  The rec.food.veg Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Listing
  - For the latest officially posted copy of the rec.food.veg FAQ, send
    an e-mail to [e-mail] with the following line in
    your message body:
      send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/faq

  The FatFree Recipe Archive
  - To get started, send the message "help" to
    [e-mail]. See listing under FTP sites below for
    more info. All requests are sent out compressed and uuencoded.

| [e-mail]
| - Will FTP stuff from any site for you via e-mail. Send a message with
|   'help' in the message body for instructions. See 'Anonymous FTP
|   Sites' below for examples of what is available.



  Internet Relay Chat (IRC)
  -------------------------

  There is a vegetarian discussion channel named '#veggies'.

  Geraint 'Gedge' Edwards maintains a server/robot on this channel
  called 'VeganSrv' which maintains the channel when he's not on so that
  interested folks can get information on vegetarianism. Gedge is
  usually on in the (GMT) afternoons. #veggies has about 3 or 4 people
  chatting at times.

  Channels are created when people join them, so if you join '#veggie',
  and not '#veggies', you are not likely to see anyone else.

  On IRC, people are known by their nicknames, so you must choose one
  with the 'nick' command.

  You can access IRC via the 'irc' client program. If you don't have it
  available on your system, then you should be able to find it at your
  local friendly FTP site (archie searches on 'ircII' should show you
  where to find it). Alternately you can telnet to a public IRC client
  (such as <irc.demon.co.uk>).

  A typommands:
      /nick MyNickname
      /join #veggies
      /who #veggies     (to see who is on #veggies)
      /whois gedge      (to see info about Gedge, if he's currently on)
      /msg gedge argh!  (to ask Gedge for help, if he's currently on)
      /quit

  All command lines must be prefixed with a '/'. Anything not prefixed
  by a '/' will be sent to your current channel for all participants to
  see!



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